New Dry Cell that works
From TLG Hydrogen
Terry From TLGhydrogen.com has now come out with a cell that produces much higher volumes of HHO. with HOD
He has asked me to post his website here so the info get's out to the world,
Terry shows how the cell is made on his website for free to all. -link-
no more wimpy 1 or 2 Lpm cells this unit makes 1 to 25+ Lpm
Get the word out before anyone can try to squash this info.
I have spent alot of money on different styles of generators, welder, all the correct safty inline devices. Mine is a tubular cell that has had 15 diff configurations. Heat is a problem with the cell. only if the wiring is correct.
tkp4jhk2 26 May : 08:40
Greetings, I guess I just typed a chat that was too long. My 2006 KIA 2.0 efi is getting 42/49 mpg, according how clean the cell is kept. More info? email me and I will return a play by play of 1 yr trials and UREKA
hi xrvic,i've got 3 of these meyer style ss tubes on my ford transit 2.5 diesel 18ft rv ,diesel loves hho i get 70% increase in mpg on motorway !+ my cell only makes just over half alitre pm!.Flyingdoc .uk.
I'm getting more than 35mpg on my 20yo (burning oil engine) car without any HHO. not a single gain at about 1li/min and my car has a 1.5li engine, soooo
where are the new projects from senior members that would keep me and others in here as well as to bring new members as well.
this chat box needs work I cant scroll down or even preview it
Be patient granity. Fuel prices will soon be racing upward again and people will "remember" to visit this site again. Whether they will actually do anything is still the question however.
Has anyone tried the generator made from two peices of stainless pipe one about 4 in in diameter with the other a little smaller inside the large one how doese this compare with the plate system I want to put a generater or two on my 02 dodge 5.9 deisel Has anyone here put this on a deisel i have many questions vic
Go to Jaycar.com.au or similar. Buy through them the performance car publications as well as the appropriate kits. Jaycar are for the hobbyist but there semiconductors etc are first class. Thing is if you wanna do something you gotta do it yourself. these guys will help and they are cheap.
Goodevening. I have a 1992 Ford F250,7.5L gasser.The MAP sensor is pulse frequency not voltage controlled.The MAP enhancers I see for sale say they will not work on a frequency type MAP sensor. How do you deal with the computer for running too rich?
0.83 Amps at 10000 volts is 8.3 kVA thats a lot of power mate. How sure are you that Stanly Meyers is no more than a disinformation program? What are the facts and what experiments of Stans are duplicatable?
I have been trying to understand Stanly Meyers voltage intensifying circut.The only thing I can come up with is a auto coil . It operates at about .83 amps and produces about 10000volts.Can any one Help.
Registered Member #466
Joined Thu Feb 16 2006, 12:59PM
Location: Manassas, VA
posts 21
Just finished my Hydro project over the weekend and it really works!!
I used a large capacity whole house water filter to hold the electrolyte
(Whirlpool Model: WHCF-DWHBB) which I purchased at Lowes home improvement store (If anyone is interested.) This thing is HUGE! It has almost a 1 gallon capacity! My project ca is a 3/4 ton Chevy Suburban, so I has some space under the hood. I placed it right next to the radiator.
So far everything works great. It does seem to draw a bit more current than I am really comfortable with (around 20amps). I will probably dilute the electrolyte a bit.
One thing I have found interesting about the current, is that it seems to increase gradually while the motor runs. It starts out around 12amps, and increases to about 20amps. I suspect that this is a function of heat, due to it being placed next to the radiator.
Has anybody experienced this gradual current increase? or have any thoughts on my theory?.
Anyway, as I collect more data, I will post mileage results and other info. Also I took plenty of pictures, and am in the prcess of building a website. I will reveal all and keep a log of findings on my web site.
Sorry if I rambled a bit. I am REALLY excited, plus I had a huge cup of coffe before writing this.
Hey Tk
Coffee is good.
yes dilute the electrolyte a bit..... it is probally because your generator is putting out more power. please feel free to post your findings. i need to get a page where people can upload their photos here on this site. if you like you can email me your photos and i can start a photo page with any coments you like.
bryan bryan@hydropowercar.com I don’t try to conserve renewable energy.....I use as much of it as I can
Registered Member #466
Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 12:59PM
Location: Manassas, VA
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Bryan,
The first mileage results are in!! Mileage around town has increased from around 13MPG to 17MPG! Getting roughly 24 on the highway, up from 18! These are calculated mileages. I hope to get a 3in1 scanguage soon, but they are on back order at the manufacturer
Sorry about the delay in posting pics.
BTW... I have heard several people talk about an EIFIE device from Eagle Research. I was wondering if anyone has used a tuner chip in conjuction with hydro injection? Something like a JET chip maybe? I am considering some sort of device to lean out the A/F ratio, and it seem like a tuner chip might be a safer option than an EIFIE.
Registered Member #544
Joined: Fri Apr 28 2006, 06:57PM
Location: Sydney Australia
posts 4
yes mine works Too.! I haveny got the current up yet so 7.2 A is all I
can get. NaOH......With my small amount of Hyd/Oxy I get 6% improvement..
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Just wondering what Voltage you have across One of your cells.? And how many cells in that Big container.? mine is seven cells with just 1.9 V
across each individual cell.
cheers, Glenn.
Registered Member #544
Joined: Fri Apr 28 2006, 06:57PM
Location: Sydney Australia
posts 4
AJ7, sorry not expert on that carb, but expect that you can re-jet
main jets. It may be an advantage to adjust main fuel jets and
air correction, but not sure what would give best result.
This something that I need to do as well.
The Hydro/Oxy Cools down the motor so should allow leaning off.
cheers, Glenn.
Registered Member #484
Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 09:42PM
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If you wrap the Oxygen Sensor with insulation the air to fuel ratio will stay at 15 to 1. Otherwise once the engine heats it up to about 700 degrees it will keep the air to fuel ratio at 14.6 to 1.
Registered Member #544
Joined: Fri Apr 28 2006, 06:57PM
Location: Sydney Australia
posts 4
I drove up the Mountains two days ago. I really pushed it up the steep inclines. It went Very very well. When I stopped , I checked the temp- normally it would be Extremely Hot. It felt like it was maybe just at operating temp. I can not believe how Much Cooling this Hydr/Oxy offers.
For my aircooled Motor - this has to be A Very Good thing.
I am really keen to lean off my Gasoline mixture to see what happens then.
cheers, Glenn.
You can connect a tube to an existing vacuum line in the intake system or you can install your own air intake fitting. I suggest connecting the tube to the air filter box rather than the intake manifold. In the event liquid gets sucked through the tube it's not as likely to get directly into the cylinders.
The suction from the intake system will pull the hydrogen gas in and mix with the air/fuel.
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Registered Member #582
Joined: Tue May 23 2006, 04:39PM
Location: Groom Lake, NV. U.S.A.
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Ok thanks, I am going to try doing it on my camaro. I was just wondering how you guys did it. My mission is probably like the rest of you is to free the world of poluting fossil fuel and make it affordable for the average Joe on the street. Is there any more sites that I can check out to get more imformation on the best way of using hydrogen in a gas combustion engine? I would really appreciate it, and I really appreciate the fact that you guys are really trying to make this fantasy into a reality. My hats off to all of you who contribute to this subject and one day it will happen with everyone's support, again thank you all.
All of my links and downloaded information is on my office computer. I'll send you some resources tomorrow. It won't help you right now but I'll be posting tons of information on my web site www.mpgsolutions.org in the near future. The site is just one page and is still on a temporary server and occasionally is inaccessable. Keep it bookmarked tho.
Good luck in your quest.
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Registered Member #706
Joined: Wed Aug 09 2006, 09:05PM
Location: Chanute Ks.
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One quick thought on your current rise. What are you using as electrode material? Could your electrodes be adding metal to the water increasing it's condutivity?
Let's tell the big boys what they can do with their oil !!
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Joined: Sat Aug 12 2006, 11:26AM
Location: us
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Hi Kennvia, I have been doing a little experimentation with the
capacative reactance that occurs between the metal plates.
Try this, hook an ohm meter up to the + and - feeding your
plates ( be sure to disconnect the power first or you will burn
up your ohm meter) watch it a while, the resistance will begin
to drop. (lower resistance = higher current flow) reverse the leads and you will see a MAJOR increse in resistance, in the
mega ohm range. I kept the water temp constant during this,
I think the reason is the DC current is charging the plates,
AC current would would solve this,also add some inductance, also higher freq. = greater
inductive reactance (more resistance) resulting in lower current flow. I am new to this perhaps someone out their has
tried this and come up with something?
DC Current is safest and least volatile method but AC current does produce the hydrogen/oxygen gas we want to produce. It is much more dangerous for many reasons. You have to be careful of arcing in the cell as it could ignite the gas. AC is much more dangerous to work with as well. That said it's worth some experimentation. I have seen some demostrations using AC and it's quite spectacular and did produce gas tho I haven't tried it myself. Below I'll post a couple links to interesting reading regarding electrolysis and here is a quote from that page.
"One more caution, even though this may be obvious to the reader: the Brownlee electrolysis apparatus is designed for Direct Current (DC) only! DO NOT attempt to use AC (alternating current) for electrolysis. Because the "cathode" and "anode" are constantly switching places, alternating current produces explosive mixtures of hydrogen and oxygen. Many instructors like to perform combustion experiments with the H2 and O2 in their respective tubes, but a mixture of both gases isn't something to ignite in a glass container..."
Check out this reactor. It's using 30VAC and is actually arcing between carbon electrodes. Looks pretty cool and he claims getting 3 liters/min which is quite good. I would be a little reluctand to put something like that in my vehicle tho and let it run for a long period of time. His demo of running an engine on this device was a little suspect tho. Notice how he turns off the reactor first and then has to go switch off the motor. If he's only running on gas from the reactor why wouldn't the motor have shut off by itself when the reactor was switched off. A little fishy to me but a cool demo. His site is a little strange to navigate but he does have quite a few demo videos.
I just went back to the site and they have a "do it yourself" experiment and it calls for a 35VDC supply. So I'm not sure at this point what they are using. Check it out for youself. Oh, and I found the actual home page.
and the DIY instructions: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/bingofuel/html/aquagen.htm [ Edited Mon Aug 21 2006, 12:19PM ] ___________________________________ http://www.mpgsolutions.org
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Joined: Tue May 23 2006, 04:39PM
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I don't know if I believe some of what he is doing, it does look a little fishy as you say. It also looks pretty dangerous to me arcing inside of a container. [ Edited Tue Aug 22 2006, 05:41PM ]
